Weird "pro-forum"

I was member of pro-forum or I believed it was some kind of pro-forum, but I was wrong.

I was quite guiet member, but sometimes I become inspired to there write same things as in my blog. But there was something strange on the forum what disturbed me very much, admins and members of forum (Rosiepops was some sort of head) talked lot about such antis like "Vile" or "Viv" or "Alsabella" or blogs like "Proud-of-PJ" "Viv's/Vile's blog" or "Supertroll-blog" (this was not anti-blog), they used lot of energy to discuss with some antis in the most strangest blog ever. Sometimes I looked at these blogs and there were hundreds of messages in them, in one blog? I just couldn't understand it all. I have read hundreds of blogs in my life and usually there are only few comments/post. Looks like those people who said that they want to support Madeleine, actually maintained these anti-blogs.

Suddenly it began to happen something strange on this forum, some members was banned, admins fight together, some left forum or were banned and new admins came in. Members disappeared more and more and one of them told me that her private messages had been spread, I didn't know what to think. It also irritated me that people were not honest there. Head admin of forum Rosiepops wrote in one message she send to me about "people who host this forum out, and that's why they have to be very careful what they say there". It was typical free net forum and anybody can establish same kind of if he wants to. Then one of my thread was moved to private section with artificial explanation. "We got report of abuse and that's why we had to move it".

I began to fed up all the lies there.

Then I took part to Gordon Brown- conversation and I wrote my opinions just like I was thinking, I talked about Martin Grimes, how he obviously set Madeleine's parents up together with PJ and how it was impossible that Gordon Brown and his cabinet could have been unknowing what Martin Grimes did and also Amaral and Christovao could not have been in their position without political support behind them. There had been cover up also in Jersey case too. Then all the admins of forum and couple of members attacked against me (I wasn't attacked against anyone of them, only against Gordon Brown and his cabinet and Martin Grimes).


They said that I disturbed their "perfect harmony" there and I was upsetting them and that purpose of this forum was not to solve what happened for Madeleine it was only "Support-forum"? (I hadn't seen much sign of it so much they used time to maintain these anti-forums)

But I didn't stop to writing because I had good arguments and good links. But then they just banned me and I couldn't read forum anymore or write on it.

***

So I was wondering what was happening. But I really wanted to know what was behind It because I was so confused and soon it became to clear for me that whole forum was pure lie.

I googled and found this thread. It was in 3A which is very hostile place full of sick and nasty people but I had noticed that sometimes when I googled I found some 3A threads where was also some interesting information.

This one also was different. Poster Spinpall had sent only 14 posts and he/she said Rosiepops has nothing to do with McCanns as those other 3A-antis suspected and actually Rosiepops was liar who had several identities.

http://www.the3arguidos.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=20071&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=60

No connection with the Mcscams whatsoever.

Rosiepops, Assassin, Muse, S ,Shano,Supertroll are all one of the same.
Check out the avatar in these links

http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:GO ... cd=1&gl=uk
http://www.express.co.uk/myexpress/profile/Muse
http://dieshano.livejournal.com/
http://www.net4nowtforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=21419
http://tinyurl.com/6eyxd9

And

Strange there is no reply from Rosie or any of her other clones on her blogs,
Hmmmmm, i also wonder why she keeping her shadowharmony site locked.
Time to turn the heat up and expose this silly b**** for the evil liar she really is.

***

I began to check links and really there was same avatar once again in every alias (except in last one, but homepage was same shonasworld.com.










































Muse Shona and Shano really were one and same person (all linked together with avatars and homepages), but how about this Rosiepops' "Shadow harmony"-forum Spinpall talked about.

http://www.shadowharmony.com

Very strange forum.

It was "S"'s forum, but looked like there was no this avatar anymore.

But when I googled again I found from Google cached (page was removed) this Shadowharmony's Madeleine-page where was text and post where was this Viv/Supertroll/Rosiepops/Assassin-stuff again. Now I had found link. Spinpall was right.

http://tinyurl.com/6x8cy8























Then I realized. I looked at this Supertroll-blog (I found it from Google cached too). There was hundreds of messages from different posters in one stupid blog. Same names (except Rosiepops but Supertroll was Rosiepops favourite-blog she talked very often about it)

http://tinyurl.com/69pfmm


I found this name Assassin too and looked her/him profile and she/he advertised Rosiepops's blog www.sweetharmony. com

http://assassinessque.blogspot.com/

















Then I finally understood: What was blog's name: SUPERTROLL yes Rosiepops really is Supertroll all of these posters are one and same person. She have tens of clones and she discuss there with her clones.

Suddenly I understood that also those "admins" of Justice Forum were one and same person. I also understood that all of those antiblogs (Proud of PJ Vile etc justiceformadeleine etc.) came from same source.

I'm sure only purpose of these kind of "support-forums" is in twisted way spy all these people who really want to find out find what happened for Madeleine and they all come from same source as these anti-forums too.

***
I had been only part of twisted sick and satanic game. And it really made me sick to think about it.

Open letter for Brian Ladd.

I publish this in my blog, because I know you don't read my message, if I send it for you.

I'm so sorry Brian

I'm so sorry I ever trusted you and send messages for you. I should have not. I thought you want to help Madeleine, but I was wrong.

You published most disgusting and awful message against Madeleine parents ever.

Congratulations, your page is now part of paedo-tom-tom, you made big service for PJ and elitepaedophilerings/childtrafficking rings behind Madeleine's abduction. You work for this beast now.

I don't ask you to remove this awful message, because you have done this before and now you did it again. On purpose. Maybe they paid for you? How much?

You have just lost your credibility. Maybe you are proud of it?

Millions of germans in 1930-40's: Hitler is a wonderful leader!

One nasty comment more:

1. "6183
   Chenier Says:
   January 19th, 2008 at 9:32 am

   6175
   jean Says:

   January 19th, 2008 at 2:50 am

   ………even though Anorak wasn’t a site for the likes of myself, Maggie, Isla, and the rest who have the genuine concern for this precious little girl…

   ——————————————————-

   That remark is typical of the deeply offensive attitude which has so often been expressed here.
   

   You do not have a monopoly in genuine concern for Madeleine, and the claim that you do is abusive to all the people who have worked to make Anorak available to us, as well as to those posters who take differing views on the 3 arguidos…

   Mods and Admin

   I find their intolerance of anyone who isn’t inspired bythe McC’s quite astonishing, and yet in real life a good 80% of the population doubt them. I also find the abuse from some of the posters on here really amazng, but I suppose thats the downside of free speech.
   Perhaps the more vocal on here might set up their own site. and we can come along and do unto them? Would we be tolerated for a moment though?"

2. http://www.anorak.co.uk/madeleine-mccann/174995.html?cp=310#comments

So millions of germans were absolutely right? Hitler was a wonderful leader?

80%, 90% even 99,9% of people can't ever be wrong?

DISINFORMATION:

Disinformation is deliberately misleading information announced publicly or leaked by a government, intelligence agency, corporation or other entity for the purpose of influencing opinions or perceptions.

Unlike misinformation, which is also a form of wrong information, disinformation is produced by people who intend to deceive their audience.

A group might plant disinformation in reports, in press releases, in public statements or in practically any other routine, occasional or unusual communique. Disinformation can also be leaked, or covertly released to a source who can be trusted to repeat the false information.

A common disinformation tactic is to mix truth, half-truths, and lies. Disinformants sometimes seek to gain the confidence of their audience through emotional appeals or by using semi-neutral language interlaced with threads of disinformation.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Disinformation

I was banned in "Madeleine McCann not in Malta or Morocco"-thread

After this message:

"5917
Mabel-lucy Says:
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:21 pm

thanks for the welcome jeannie are you the moderator?

i thought that robert was made argudo so he couldnt talk now they are saying he will get a million pounds when he talks
________________________

Mods and Admin

Mabel-lucy,

Welcome to Anorak, hope you enjoy your visit and return also.
We do have a lot of other threads going, which are much busier and livelier also.
But the format will be changing very soon, and there will be only one thread available to post on, and the best of the posts put up for Backlash.
For quite some time I was solo Mod, but we now have two more: Duncan R and Carmen, both very fair and reasonable people. June

******

So they "really" seem to be "fair" and "reasonable" persons (especially for Madeleine parents)

Carmen:

http://www.anorak.co.uk/madeleine-mccann/179523.html?cp=1#comments

"Carmen Says:
January 18th, 2008 at 8:12 am

It would be interesting to know whether there has been any drop in the number of people applying to go to medical school now that the McCann’s have so throughly trashed the social status of being a Doctor.

Any comment from the Jewish Cronicle - are Mother’s still climbing over engineer’s and nuclear physicists to ‘bag’ a Doctor for their daughter?

There’s a good PhD in the making here for a social scientist."

And DuncanR

http://duncanr.wordpress.com/2007/06/09/madeleine-mccann/


And Karen:

I found this:

Registry Whois

Domain name:
anorak.co.uk

Registrant:
Karen Sorene

Registrant type:
UK Sole Trader

So Karen, are you same Karen? Is P. Sorene your husband? You seem to know as much as mods here and you behave like you should own this forum.

Another matter, what is really strange, is that you (mods) have some kind of "club" here and looks like you don't want anyone else disturb your little "funny" world.

Disappearance of Madeleine McCann is not "funny", paedophilia (especially linked in Portugal =Casa Pia, which still continues) and other missing children in Portugal is not "funny" too.

Your conception of world is quite twisted.

Looks like this forum is not so safe for posters too.

http://www.anorak.co.uk/madeleine-mccann/179099.html?cp=59#comments


"1171
Cheryl Says:
January 8th, 2008 at 1:02 pm

1079
Cheryl Says:

January 7th, 2008 at 12:07 am
MODS AND ADMIN - JUNE JOHNSON

HERE IS THE ONE I REFERRED TO WHERE HE HAD STATED HIS THREAT AND CAPABILITIES AND THEN INTERESTING ONE UNDER THAT I’VE ATTACHED FROM YAMPSTER #718 RE HIS SUSPICIONS HE HAD OF SOMEONE DOING IT LAST WEEK ON HERE

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Dr. Watson Says:

January 6th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Maria,

I once asked you to ignore me, please, I do not deserve your attention.

Jane,

Your comment is sickening. Perverting the course of justice is a criminal offence, people wgo cover up for criminals should be jailed. I call is justice, you state that as Nazism. I know you IP address, I know your other names your post under.
Do not abuse people. You do not want me to splash your real name abd e-mail across anorak. Once more, what you said is sickening.

718
yampster Says:

January 6th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
696
Dr. Watson

When I came on here last Friday and suggested that ’someone’ was collecting IP addresses and E-mail adresses for publication it was scoffed at. Now someone has finally admitted it. Thank you for vindicating me and my previous post"

It suprises me, you have sponsors and you treat your posters, those who want to search Madeleine, like rubbish. You treat Madeleines parents like rubbish and finally you treat little missing Madeleine like rubbish.

So Goodbye Anorak. Remember: As you sow you shall mow.

Hunt of supporters of McCann's

Mods and admins (Agw, JuneJohnson, Carmen, DuncanR) of Anoraks Madeleine McCann not in Malta or Morocco -thread closed this thread and they did it in very aggressive way.

www.anorak.co.uk/madeleine-mccann/174995.html

Four comments from users:

1.
"6137
anthony Says:
January 16th, 2008 at 9:11 pm

this thread is being closed down,the mods decided a while ago to close iti am sorry for the child who is missing in heluva as she will not be the last one thats why it is important to find madeline mccann,to deter others from doing what you now see,we can only wait now for something to happen in her case,its not the mods fault as the world haslost intrest in the soap opera that her case has become,i hope she is still alive somewhere in europe and she will be seen again,

with the pj and people like the mods who no longer want to know, you may never see her again i hope not,

i will not be posting here anymore as i can get no more info from this site anymore as the mods keep deleteing posts that may yeild clues,we are left with rubbish posts of no use to anyone,

when her kidnappers do make a move i and others will be watching as i can keep an eye on her case while living a normal life,i hope to go and help look for her soon as the pj are closing the case and the press no longer want to know and most have lost interest,i may find nothing and may gain a little good intel that may help me,the trail is long since gone cold and the people who took her are well dug in,all you need is a tiny chink in the dragons amour and it can be slain,just a little clue or a name or a location and and we are off the starting blocks,

i would like to thank everyone who has posted here as i thought at one point one of you may find her such was the quality of the posts and the people who posted them,thereis nothing left to do now as the mccanns and the police have tried everything,only sraw dogs can find her now,

small prayer to saint anthony patron saint of lost things that someone finds a clue and the child is found safe.

yours anthony

2.
Isla Says:
January 17th, 2008 at 3:38 pm

Hi all

It would seem that the forum is in now it’s death throes. Anthony, as ever insightful, saw the writing on the wall. I suppose it had to happen sooner or later. I had hoped it would have been sooner, that is with Madeleine being found alive.

Although I haven’t been posting due to family commitments/problems, I have followed the posts since I left the forum. I’ve been surprised by the mods approach towards a number of individuals. It seemed clear to me that a particular poster was deliberately disrupting the forum by hounding one poster after another in particular, laterly, Swissmiss. I’m sure that Anthony could clarify that for us! I’m also astonished at the mods stance in relation to libellous posts. Many individuals, in particular myself, have been cutting, pasting and posting articles from many newspapers and so on for months with no comment being made at all.

It has also been pointed out that this forum was considered to be an pro-parent forum. If that was the case was that such a bad thing? Was it such a bad thing for people to consider two people innocent until proven guilty? I think not. But more than anything was it really a
pr0-parent forum at all? It seemed to me that (mostly) everyone understood that the forum was about ‘Madeleine’, but sadly due to her plight there was very little that could be said about her at all, so it seemed natural that the forum would evolve and become a ‘finding Madeleine’ forum. In attempting to find Madeleine it was natural that the parents, their actions, their ever-changing situation would be considered because Madeleine, her disappearance and her parents are irrevocably intertwined. Many people ensured that data posted was from across the board, not just so-called pro-McCann, to acquaint everyone with all available data on the case - true/untrue - for/against. Many individuals also posted articles on other missing children/child neglect/abuse. This forum was considered to be one of the most constructive and informative ‘Madeleine’ forums of all. If there was any ‘focus’ on the parents it seemed to come from individuals, who had very little to say about Madeleine at all.

Anyway after all is said and done, I would like to take this opportunity to thank Anorak for allowing me/us to post on this forum. It gave us the opportunity to discuss and debate the profound issue of a little girl’s disappearance. It enabled us to meet other like-minded people and those who were nor so like- minded. As far as I am concerned it was an education on any number of subjects from child neglect/abuse, Press/Political agenda, Policing, paedophilia, human nature, hidden agendas, missing children, conspiracy theories, human psychology and so on.

I would also like to thank the mods, in particular June, for giving her precious time, support and advice.

More than anything I would like to thank everyone who posted on his forum for sparing the time to consider a missing child.

Finally, I would like to thank a number of people, too many too mention but you’ll know who I am referring too, that restored my faith in human nature. They came from around the globe, to unite on this forum, in an attempt to keep a wee girl’s name alive and made a great attempt to find her, to establish the truth about her plight and fight for justice for her and other vulnerable children.

As this WILL be my last post on this forum! I would just like to say that on the day that Madeleine is found alive I will toast her and her family at 9pm. As I do so I will think of you all too. Maybe you will join me, wherever you may be? If she found ‘otherwise’ I will pray for her and all concerned that day (and long after) and if she is never found either way, God forbid, I will never forget her or the many decent people that I had the great privilege to ‘meet’ on this forum.

3.
6181
Daisy Says:
January 19th, 2008 at 8:58 am

"6167
agw (Anoraks Moderator) Says:
January 18th, 2008 at 7:31 pm

Daisy threw a flouncy fit and stalked off.
Fine. I have closed the door behind her and it may be permanent."

AGW,

Sorry to disappoint you, but I CLOSED the door PERMANENTLY!!! And do you know why? I have no interest whatsoever to deal with people sitting in an ivory tower who profess one thing but act completely differently. You and Mods are just people, nothing more and nothing less, but surely behave like superior beings, in my humble opinion. Should be enough fpor everyone. I have news for you: I don’t believe in superior beings!

( And, by the way, I hadn’t realized that you apparently have a new Mod, i.e. Karen … she surely acts like one.)

AGW, I stand by what I stated yesterday or any other day!

Good Bye For Good!

Comment of Anoraks moderator: I expect this hysterical, misguided and uninformed, twaddle is more than enough for everyone.
Daisy has left the the Anorak orbit. That WILL be permanently.
An antipodean tragedy…for other sites. -agw.

4.
6183
jean Says:
January 19th, 2008 at 1:52 pm

I really must make a comment on the posts that are flying about here. This site was quite peaceful, going along in its own way, but along came the likes of Karen, who seemed intent on disrupting every single one of us who have posted on here for quite some time. Why on earth this site has attracted so much unpleasantness is a complete mystery to me. I have seen Chernier’s post on other sites but can’t really remember how he/she is placed. As I have said before, I can’t understand why so many people make so many nasty, uncalled for comments about the whole sorry situation. Am I missing something, or is my faith in human nature lacking in some way? I feel that the McCanns, although they did wrong in the first place by leaving their children unattended, should be given some sympathy from even the hardest of people, because, for God’s sake they have lost their beautiful daughter to God knows who, and are now paying the price. Surely that is enough for them to bear without the stupid comments that are posted on here, or is that your idea of entertainment??

To mods and admins: As far as your comment is concerned regarding 80% (published in the press no doubt!!) of the population believing the McCanns are at fault. I really think that is pie in the sky, the majority of people I speak to are in complete sympathy for the McCanns and all wish they could do something to help them find Madeleine.

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